Count Dooku was manipulating them, just as Palpatine was manipulating the Senate. it seems like it is run by a mix of greedy tax evaders and genuine idealists. You are aware that the British did send an army when the US tried to leave? The Separatists are only considered "evil" because the Republic was inherently corrupt and that is why the "good" senators seceded in the first place. They were … All kidding aside, they practice slavery, but we never get any indication that slavery is illegal in most of the Republic, so they might just be engaging in normal practices by galactic standards. The Confederacy of Independent Systems or the CIS or commonly known as the Separatists and the Separatist Alliance, or simply known as the Confederacy or Confederation and sometimes known as the Separatist-Confederacy, the Confederacy Alliance, and the Separatist Foundation is a group against the evil Galactic Republic. At the very least id say withdrawing from a democracy to form an oligarchy (starting a civil war that kills millions in the process) isn't exactly progressive. Many of the Separatist senators/people are actually not that different from their Republic counterparts. Perhaps to the Separatists, the Jedi were the evil - or wrong - ones! Most people think that the conflict was over not wanting to pay taxes when it was really about the monopoly and tax breaks the company was receiving from the British. Not to mention that its secretly the Sith Lord manipulating them to his will the entire time. So yeah, that's my opinion! Good people with just causes probably gravitated towards their movement, as its … Anakin.Skywalker, Dec 14, 2016. Star Wars is an American epic space opera franchise, created by George Lucas and centered around a film series that began with the eponymous 1977 movie. AotC had Dooku spout some nonsense but the Clone Wars and the PT never gave anyone a reason to think the CIS was anything but pure evil. The only thing I'm aware of that's relevant is that the official name of the separatists is the "Confederacy of Independent Systems," so they have a name that sounds evil. In attack of the clones it is said that the separatist movement started when the trade federation figured out that palpatine, aka Mr super evil sigh dude, took control of the republic. In addition to this, off the top of my head Dooku directly calls for fatal weapons testing against unarmed, neutral, pacifist civilians. Oh yup. Did the CIS do the same? To get this out of the way, yes, it was being secretly lead by Sith Lords. They wiped out worlds, they enslaved populations, etc. On Geonosis they were to be put to death for spying, similar to how it is on today's earth. For example, it's things like have a megaconglomerate like the Trade Federation having a seat on the Senate that exemplifies the corrupts aspect of the Republic. Press J to jump to the feed. So imo, the ideals of the Separatist movement are not "evil" and is actually in some ways noble, but the methods of their military that many aren't privvy to are evil. And the Jedi knew from day one of the war that there was a Sith Lord leading the opposition. Members of the Dark Acolytes were given equipment that were strongly from a Sith origin as they all did adhere to the Order of the Sith Lords. But that doesn't explain anything. She was no more evil than her friend Padme. I've seen all the content (movies, CW) but I'm probably forgetting tons of stuff. it's not a system i'd praise, and it is created by a sith lord (but they dont know that). They carried t… Apparently, corrupt democracy =good Anything else or anyone that wants something different = pure evil in its worst form. But anyway, why were the separatists considered evil? It's just unfortunate that the CIS was headed by genuinely evil people like Count Dooku, Sidious, and Grievous. The men and women died of the horrors of their prisons. but the republic also seemed to be run by greed, and was also run by the same sith lord (they dont know that but even the jedi just roll with it till the very … That's a no from me. The country had been predominantly Catholic, and in the 1600s Church of England services retained some aspects of Catholicism, which reform-minded Protestants regarded as decadence. The Separatists don't do that. The Pilgrims were therefore less radical than other Separatists and should not be confused with the stereotypical "tyrannical Puritan." Not from anything we see or read in canon, onscreen or in legends. Which in my book is evil, but this isn't a socialist sub so I guess you can make up your own mind lol. Are the separatists really evil? In general they aren't "evil." They've both got their good, bad, neutral and ugly elements within them and neither of them is as evil and hegemonic as the Empire or as righteous as the Rebel Alliance. They both had good reason to fight and even better reasons to end the fighting. A democratic union centered on the capital world of Coruscant, the Republic was ruled by the Galactic Senate led by an elected Supreme Chancellor. That's why I find it difficult to just call the Separatists evil and Republic (ans) good. That's a no from me. Press J to jump to the feed. Mina Bonteri from The Clone Wars is one of the more prominent examples. The Clone Wars does explore this a lot more. They were oligarchs for sure. They weren't fighting against corruption, they were fighting for it. Bi'lor was a minor voice in the Separatist Parliament for the rest of the war. "Evil" to me is the Galactic Empire, who kill for no reason only to show that they have the power to. The Separatists were severely critical of the Church of England and wanted to either destroy it or separate from it. They were attempting to assassinate a Senator calling for peace. They had more power in the CIS than its own Senators. Edit: Rewatching a clone wars episode and Dooku commanded the Quarren to send all Mon cala prisoners into work camps. Traveling with the Pilgrims were about two dozen non-separatist Puritans, whom the Pilgrims sometimes called “strangers,” a few servants, and a … For one thousand years, the galaxy had been governed through the Galactic Republic. #3. Australia, Canada, the United States, and several other countries all left Britain at one point. However, the Republic didn't want to give up its power, so instead branded the dissenters as greedy separatists. Basically, the Separatists were simply led by evil people - most notably Dooku, Grievous, Nute Gunray, etc. The Separatists – well, some of them – were bad people. From the PT, I always felt that the separatists weren't as evil as the Empire. The Separatist Capital was on Raxus Secundus, a lush world where some of the Republic's enemies were, in fact, decent people with forthright political beliefs, but it was mostly ruled by corrupt businessmen, the Separatist Council, who ignored the Senate. Unless you count Iaco Stark! If it were real life, it could be argued that the CIS is right for the wrong reasons. Overall, there was nothing inherently evil about this group. She was no more evil than her friend Padme. Imagine if Wal-Mart decided to just declare a form of martial law over the states where they did the best business. So, they're evil because of a fair amount of murder, among other things. The problem is that all of their leadership is evil, but the general Separatist people don't realize it because leaders like Dooku are portrayed as good. English protestants who separated from the Anglican church. The Seperatist leaders were those megaconglomerates. So imo, the ideals of the Separatist movement are not "evil" and is actually in some ways noble, but the methods of their military that many aren't privvy to are evil. In truth, the Separatists were led by both the Sith and a cabal of the … Oct 11, 2016. why were the separatists considered evil? The separatists were the equivalent of the CSA in the American Civil War. After the war between Saporia and Corona ended due to a romantic union between the leaders of the kingdoms, as well as their land, but because of this a small sect of Saporia felt betrayed and formed the Separatists of Saporia and one day promised to return to reclaim Saporia. The Republic was corrupt but not evil. The problem is that the separatist government was a facade and the oligarchic corporations and sith controlled the faction, so overall yes. There were episodes in the Clone Wars series where the heroes met some separatists who happened to not be vicious and cruel monsters. With the assistance of the Jedi Order acting as peacekeepers, the Republic enjoyed a millennia without large-scale war. Truly evil, we see examples of them terrorizing citizens and destroying planets. From the start the Separatist movement was a puppet for Sidious. The CIS was no different from the Empire that came after it. Meanwhile the republic utilized fully independent clones, who truly believed "we're meant to be expendable". And in none of those cases did anyone send an army of clones and space wizards to force those countries not to leave. The leadership were weak and corrupt and thought they would stand to gain from fracturing the Republic. The bad guys were the trade federation who started the war to profit … And there was a whole lot more to them than simply wanting to leave. For example, it's things like have a megaconglomerate like the Trade Federation having a seat on the Senate that exemplifies the corrupts aspect of the Republic. They were allowed while in prison neither clothing or food, and subsisted upon donations that came through their jailers. There's an episode where they explore the "good" Separatists. We use cookies on our websites for a number of purposes, including analytics and performance, functionality and advertising. They wanted to get rid of the corruption in the Republic that was very much there and needed to get fixed. I only watched 10 episodes and a movie of the clone wars because I found it boring. His people helped to support the CIS without fighting … after centuries it was though… The empire? Rewatching a clone wars episode and Dooku commanded the Quarren to send all prisoners into work camps. That’s a notion that made me laugh when I first thought about it. Mina Bonteri from The Clone Wars is one of the more prominent examples. In 1567-1569, under Elizabeth, a London congregation was thrown into prison. Who were the Separatists? New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. From meeting Lux and his mother, she had realised that not all Separatists were supporters of the war. About half were in fact Separatists, the people we now know as the Pilgrims. Aside from the fact that the leader was a known Sith Lord, the Separatists allowed slavery and had an army funded by questionable organizations, which included the Trade Federation that tried to conquer a Republic world 10 years ago. The separatist senate and their citizens weren’t, but pretty much all the military and the separatist council were composed of mustache-twirling, stereotypical villains who knew exactly what they were doing when they invaded planets, raiding and plundering villages of innocent republic/neutral civilians. English Dissenters or English Separatists were Protestant Christians who separated from the Church of England in the 17th and 18th centuries.. A dissenter (from the Latin dissentire, "to disagree") is one who disagrees in opinion, belief and other matters.English Dissenters opposed state interference in religious matters, and founded their own churches, educational establishments and communities. A Supreme Chancellor I used to know would've said that "good is a point of view"... Hey, Nute Gunray was the original Rebel! For example, it's things like have a megaconglomerate like the Trade Federation having a seat on the Senate that exemplifies the corrupt aspect of the Republic. Star Wars is an American epic space opera franchise, created by George Lucas and centered around a film series that began with the eponymous 1977 movie. The Confederacy of Independent Systems, also known as the CIS, more commonly known as the Separatist Alliance or simply the Separatists, were a faction of wealthy and disgruntled systems and organizations that became disenchanted by the Republic. Hell, the Separatists didn't even wish want actual lives to be on the line, they sent in Androids. The Separatists are only considered "evil" because the Republic was inherently corrupt and that is why the "good" senators seceded in the first place. Evil is everywhere." Although they did some pretty crummy stuff, I think they mainly got mixed in with the wrong crowd (the Sith, that is) and that messed them up. The Separatists attempt to try and settle the stuff that the Republic couldn't/wouldn't usually do. Content in video is expressed using PG-13 rated movies and Teen + rated comics, TV shows, video games, and books; and is not intended for children.