It isn’t. The movie creators (and maybe just the set designer) is telling us something when we come across a book. Ultimately though, it is becoming clear that there has been a zombie outbreak of some size and that the citizens of the town are turning on each other and working actively to get their own victim or they pop and die. Dr. Mendez moments before had spewed a fairly telling sentence: “We are witnessing a new arrangement for life, our language is our host. Is it clear what I am saying? https://www.amazon.com/Pontypool-Changes-Everything-Tony-Burgess/dp/1550228811/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2X0KZSK204HQ3&keywords=pontypool+changes+everything&qid=1565824455&s=gateway&sprefix=pontypool+changes%2Caps%2C228&sr=8-1. Ken Loney, their “eyes in the sky” is sending reports about the unruly crowd and the chaos that is quickly spreading through the town. I gave you a few unspoilery details. Good. Loudly and quietly. That the virus could be contained in some words, if not in all words. Yeah, you’re cool like that, Taylor. It’s a win win win… well, for me at least anyway. Not kills him? I stumbled on it when it was free out on Netflix forever ago, but it had a sort of uniqueness, that basically made me …remember it. But rather when they understand the word. But the movie kicks off with mainly banter between the radio staff. A babbling zombie of sorts. And somewhere else people are saying that it's supposed to connect to the trilogy they wanted to make with pontypool? I mean, it seems clever. Because in the scene that plays after the credits end, Marvel appears to have set Wanda’s “Doctor Strange 2” arc, and in no small way. The post-credits scene begins at the 39:43 mark in the episode. I’ve watched it a few more times that way. No one should leave earth until they’ve read Little, Big by John Crowley. ((Although I read those on IMDB and we all know how those forums can be)). But allowing you all to post and upvote movie ideas is the best thing I could ever do to make my own life better. Hot answers tagged pontypool. Replies to my comments (Now that I think about it, I probably should have searched my blog to see if I fall prey to that hyperbolistic trap myself!). The existence for it is sort of buried in there, well the title of the book sort of suggests it, Pontypool Changes Everything, and one of the things I’ve always love about the notion of this, is that the virus could effect something as abstract as the English language, IT CAN LEAP INTO REALITY ITSELF. The post-credits scene is slightly less easy to interpret. 2017 Kong: Skull Island: Hank Marlow reunite with his wife and son for the first time. The second stage is your language becomes scrambled and you can’t express yourself properly. I mean, come on!? The magical tome that Wanda is reading in the post-credits scene is kind of a big deal. I like the review. I honestly am not sure what that means. In one of the movie’s final scenes, as Mazzy delivers his speech to “save” everyone, we hear the French Canadian Military, on a loudspeaker tell Sydney (in French): “Sydney Briar! However, audiences in early screenings found the original ending to be too confusing, so the scene was moved behind the credits instead. Who are you?”. D it a really nice surprise and it made me a fan of Stephen McHattie, as well. Hrm. Your email address will not be published. It’s just four characters that populate this tightly closed box movie. The second post-credit scene revisits Wanda, who was last leaving WestView behind. The first half was amazing though and had the potential for greatness. and eventually I found it shown in its entirety (with Spanish subtitles) for free, on YouTube. "WandaVision" ended its penultimate episode with a post-credits scene featuring a new version of an Avenger—and star Paul Bettany has teased … Warning: This post contains spoilers for WandaVision episode 8. (Get it, she kisses him? This movie really just consists of; Grant Mazzy – who is the radio host, Sydney Briar – the radio producer, Laurel-Ann Drummond – the radio assistant, and Dr. Mendez – the local town doctor. I really really liked it. Wow Zoya. Infinite Jest. After all, the “cure” idea seems a bit too simple, too contrived…unless one’s mind isn’t working correctly, because one is infected. And you are still here? We are thrashing wildly into the night. Have you read all his stuff? I’ve recommended it to a number of people and many have found it hard to mentally solve. ... this post was submitted on 05 Oct 2016. Personally, if I were you, avoid this trailer like the plague (see what I did there?) After the credits, the scene shifts to a radically different view: a stylized black-and-white version of Grant and Sydney in what looks like a far-eastern atmosphere. poиtypool. I am always right. Why he isn’t more well known boggles my mind. Because it is a closed box movie with big aspirations. And in so doing he has propagated the inoculation of society as well as the disinfection. What? So heck ya! And it’s up to Hiro to decode the virus and to code a solution for freeing the enslaved zombies. A Meta-Word-Scientist? As a writer yourself, Taylor, you might find inspiration from reading Crowley as this writer shared: https://www.npr.org/2014/03/23/291929137/little-big-delights-with-a-little-magic-and-a-big-strange-story. Reading? Too much confusion. He described the stages of the disease: ‘There are three stages to this virus. And after that, it’s all a bit of house keeping. I finished watching Pontypool last night and it was great! And it is then that Mazzy gets his break through idea. It has something big to say when it is all said and done, and heck ya, it’s a lot of fun along the way. But best worthy? How are you? The WandaVision post credits scene sets up Wanda going full Folklore with the Darkhold before she travels through the multiverse with Doctor Strange. So that would mean that Mazzey has short circuited the infection AND ALSO cured the affect. Think how many times Mazzy repeats words, Pontypool being just the first in the opening scenes. [6]” (I also found this on Wikipedia. But it gives it a run for its money, that’s for sure. And I mention it because Neal Stephenson is a Geek favorite, and always a good read. Haiti, Guinness, Pontypool…erm, hope you’re feeling better, my friend. Great. It could have sprung spontaneously out of perception. I can see why you like it. Told you about the big ideas it has. Horror movies usually rely on effects and imagery to create the scenes needed to entice the audience. Maybe he really IS sick? And she spews, and dies? You can also subscribe without commenting. It may be boundless. Repeat as necessary. It really seems like this is an ongoing battle between the two of them. We heard hints about this. Snow Crash is currently in production mode by Amazon Studios along with two other sci-fi novel-to-screen adaptations: http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/amazon-studios-lazarus-snow-crash-ringworld-1202576048/, When it comes to books – you CAN NOT utilize the phrase, before you die, before you leave earth, before you kick off… unless it’s like your #1 favorite book of all time. Possibly the most sprawling and fascinating historical novel I’ve ever read. The audience is basically encouraged to use their imagination during… Short version: The virus evolved from the dialogue Mazzy gave over the radio, as heard in the opening credits of the movie, and as shown visually as “typo” becomes “Pontypool”. And you can see that in all his work. Cryptonomicron is his best single book by far. I feel like more people should know about this one, I found 5 points (69% upvoted) shortlink: remember me … And just like that, Sydney kisses Mazzey and the movie ends. If you can get this link to work, I recall it explains a lot http://twitchfilm.com/2009/03/from-pontypool-to-the-metaverse-in-90-minutes-a-conversation-with-bruce-mcd.html, Quote Director Bruce McDonald: (I added the all-capitals) “That used to be end of the movie, but before the credits. I don't get it. The first is after the animated credits, like the last two. Ever wonder if a movie, television show, video game, etc. Pontypool. Lastly, remember when Mazzy talks to Nigel from the BBC? It’s a mind blowing book. I know what’s happening. Life, reality, boundlessness? Gotta ask why. WandaVision episode 8 introduces S.W.O.R.D. Is that how you treat someone that is so good to you? But yeah, I started reading some of Little Big today. It is a closed box movie on the scale of 10 Cloverfield Lane… but maybe better? He’s a pretty big deal. Only read Snow Crash…you meaningfully described Stephenson’s brilliance. Your wise advise to pay attention to a movie’s referencing of a book or other movie within the movie is a way to gain further depth of a film…kind of like like Poe’s musing, “All of life is but a dream within a dream” many films provide stories within stories. Yes. Which, is where Biblionomicron came from actually, which is what I entitled my Bible expositions. But … If I remember correctly, those two are married in real life. I listen to your movie suggestions and I bring them out here… and voila, I look like a genius, because I am always right. Dumb. Please, do not tell me this is your favorite book. The radio station is the first to pick up the story and it seems to grow and grow quickly. Audio vox pops and broadcasts play over the credits, reporting further outbreaks of the virus, suggesting that the quarantine failed. That’s just another day of insanity. I built out a fullon bulletin board location and attached it to the site, but it took too much away from our conversations here in the comments. You really have to stop talking to yourself. Words are like a two-bladed sword and cut through ignorance, darkness or forever wound. Really? But often groping a little too obviously toward metaphors that would have been better left subtler. The scene happened after the cliffhanger, where Agnes (Kathryn Hahn) revealed herself to be Agatha Harkness. The House aspects of it reminds me of house of leaves. I challenge you to bring me a smarter writer. Postscript… I’m currently stuck in Miami – good times – which, is it’s own Pontypool of sorts…. I actually contacted a developer in the Ukraine just minutes ago and asked him if he’d build me a page that would allow you all to submit movies to be discussed here, and then let you upvote them. Can not do it. We catch up with her in a cabin in the middle of nowhere enjoying … According to the director, there are three stages to the illness: Good. What was your favorite? 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Anyway, Crowley became preferred over Stephenson because the former writes lyrical masterpieces, beauty within every sentence that may cause Stephenson to ooh and ahh. I read somewhere they wanted a funny ending to lighten the mood? Depending on one’s psychological make-up, focus may exceed time allowed or too easily dismiss words which inspire or hurt. Now I'll need to look it up. Long read. Pontypool is that type of movie that flexes the mind. I’ve yet to crack a month and that’s upon rereads. I have a system for moving back and forth. 7 Where did the speaking-disease come from? The Baroque Cycle is always high on my recommendation list if you are into history. Pontypool is a 2008 Canadian horror film directed by Bruce McDonald and written by Tony Burgess, based on his novel Pontypool Changes Everything. I finished watching Pontypool last night and it was great! Which, honestly, is enough for me. But stop right there. We see that Wanda has moved to a remote cabin in the mountains, seemingly living a simple life alone. What if Mazzy was sickened from the start of the movie, and he never cured Sydney? Pontypool has a notable history as one of the earliest industrial towns in Wales. You watch the movie first. Eventually Sydney Briar gets infected. hehehe. But I swear to you my best movie review ideas come from you all. Great. And the reason I am always right is because I listen to you. Pontypool is based on the book “Pontypool Changes Everything”, which is told from the perspective of the infected. In fact it was probably one of the scariest movies I've ever seen. Definitely worth a watch. Jac Schaeffer, the creator and writer for “WandaVision,” teased that mid-credits scenes were on the way. I watched Pontypool the other day too, I was just as lost. https://time.com/5516692/marvel-post-credit-scenes-breakdown 's true sentient weapon, the White Vision who is clearly set up for an intriguing, no doubt devastating showdown with the "real" Vision (Wanda's version) and Scarlet Witch in the finale. First, he goes silent…then, he seems unable to respond correctly, only repeating (rewording, yes but repeating) what Nigel already said? WandaVision Episode 7 featured the show's first post-credits scene—a Marvel Cinematic Universe signature. The producer’s character was a bit too flat for me. And none of it makes any sense at all. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Kill is Kiss. I scour through your movie recommends and I’ve found some total gems. All I knew was that this was a different sort of Zombie movie. The town and its immediate surroundings were home to significant industrial and technological innovations, with links to the iron industry dating back to the early fifteenth century when a bloomery furnace was established at Pontymoile. You just gave me a crapload to think about and I’ve seen this movie 15 times (I’m a claustrophile and so I love movies where people are stuck somewhere together whether it is because of some danger (Pontypool ..? (I personally feel like it alludes to the fact that the two may have been more knowingly involved in this outbreak than the rest of the film lets on). Which, if i were clever enough, I would have hidden from you all that L, or Ned, or whatever they are going by today, is the one that told me about it. Anyway, I would love to know what people think about that damn scene where they are kicking the girl, I LOVED Pontypool. One thing i do notice here, however, is you neglect to mention the post-credit sequence of the film and how it affects one’s overall interpretation of the events preceding it. This actually could be a radio drama so little is happening on screen. But alas, I’ve already let it slip and I’ve lost control of this fact. Yeah, I thought you might have gotten that. Then he sits down with … Books are never there accidentally. But even better? I seriously didn't even know there was a post-credits scene, and I've seen the movie multiple times. Right? Oh right right right… it’s just a simple book about a virus that lives in both the virtual world called the Metaverse, as well as the real world – or meat space. Cough. '” (I had to get this quote from Wikipedia because the original article appears to be gone. As she opens the door of the basement, Pietro (played by Evan Peters) appears behind her. After all, it would be terrible to have the story of a language virus start an actual language virus. That assumes that the virus only stays resident when the infected/glitched word is understood. I am guessing that that is one way that the infection is spread as the zombie dies. No. Brilliant. Any hoooo I love love love your Thinc site, Taylor! The writing is difficult to follow…to say the least. Feel free to contact us with submissions, questions or comments using this contact form, or via email. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Seeing the arrival of Cthulhu from the perspective of average people was spellbinding. After a post-credit scene in episode … Zombies? No, that’s not what I’m getting at. Stephenson knows more about language and the nuance of words than I ever will. Paul Bettany left many guessing which Marvel character could show up in the final episodes of WandaVision. The man speaking is sick!” Shortly after, the city is bombed. Thus it seems this scene was added as a way to “cure” or “inoculate” the audience, who just spent 90 minutes watching from the POV of the infected. But Mazzey, in a spirit of Pump Up the Volume, drops some really cool truths heading into the end of this movie. Pontypool was a cheapo closed box production filmed in Canada and as Taylor well explains it, “A zombie film done right”. “Stop making sense!” He yells into the radio. There are also a few feral zombies (are there non-feral zombies?) I wonder how his lyrical masterpieces would convey cinematically without losing depth. In the post-credits scene of that film, the titular character, portrayed by Matthew Broderick, breaks the fourth wall and tells the audience that the movie is over and they should go home. What if we are seeing and “understanding” through the eyes and ears of the infected? Taylor, thanks again for your explanations and insights. It may be a god-bug.” Which, I have to say is just one brilliant riff of writing. In the post-credits scene, we saw Monica Rambeau (Teyonah Parris) try to enter Agnes’ house. And just like that Sydney is cured. Don't subscribe Springs Celebration Gifts for Geeks and Movie Nerds, Indie Movie Counter Clockwise Interview with Writer and Director George Moïse, Interview with Home With a View of a Monster Todd Greenlee and Jasper Hammer, Brilliant Movie Recommendation On Body and Soul, Home With A View of the Monster Explanation, Indie Movie Counter Clockwise Recommendation. So yes, before you die, read Infinite Jest. And people thought, what? But I still love the Hollywood-ish productions, too. Fact. Did you guys catch the copy of Snowcrash that entered the movie momentarily? Thing is, fantasy author John Crowley held attention in two books, “Little, Big” and “Ka: Dar Oakley in the Ruin of Ymr” to the point I’d forgotten Stephenson. Notify me of followup comments via e-mail. Interview with The Devil All the Time Scribe Paulo Campos!! Funny continuity blunder: the girl banging her face into the sound booth so many times, but the only blood smears she has are around her mouth and hands. And as we learn more about the zombies, we realize that they hone in on words, on talking, and that they are blind when communication stops. that eventually make an entrance. Learn how your comment data is processed. Apparently they had that scene as the ending before the credits, but the test audiences didn't get it so they moved it to post-credits. You are seeing it right? What’d you think of it? But I'm left... jump to content. As for the final scene after the credits: “According to McDonald, the final scene of Grant and Sydney, now presented in a kicker, was originally placed before the credits. my subreddits. What if Mazzy inadvertently spread the disease even further with his broadcast? That is for sure. Poиtypool. As the movie kicked off I was legitimately confused. A god-bug? I was kind to you. So in an effort not to spread the virus Grant Mazzey and Sydney Briar begin communicating in French. When they bomb, it’s tough to watch the credits, the many names of contributors scrolling which encompass more people than some small town populations. We see S.W.O.R.D. Required fields are marked *. And I was thoroughly confused when he says, “A victim needs a victim to suicide into…” Er, what? I love this movie - rewatch it a lot - and never got what the ending is supposed to mean either. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, News & Discussion about Major Motion Pictures, Press J to jump to the feed. So basically one could essentially infect themselves by thinking of the word that carries the virus? The Cryptonomicron. So why should you watch Pontypool even though you’ve never heard of it? Words…can educate, can uplift and they can “kill” on so many levels. IMO, this is the best Lovecraftian movie ever made. Not only has he solved the communication of the dis-ease, but he has also made it so that she isn’t sick anymore. Thank you! I liked that movie but it really fell apart in the middle. A radio host interprets the possible outbreak of a deadly virus which infects the small Ontario town he is stationed in. Everyone experiences a moment when someone’s words, whether positive or negative, greatly affect them. What is the deal with the way Grant is kicking the little zombie girl and then disappears for a second with a weird bit of sound effect and then it flips back and now both are kicking the little girl (this is why Zoya has me thinking – I mean, they are being merciless by kicking her 15 times each but maybe that is because they are already sick, as Zoya said and maybe that is why Mazzy’s last little speech is so disjointed – it actually does make sense though, what he is saying but if it is from his perspective, maybe it doesn’t make any sense at all). And usually it’s words that are terms of endearment like sweetheart or honey. Liked it? has any special scenes during or after the credits (aka Stinger, Egg, Credit Cookie, etc.)? You are an Independent movie Producer/Director/Writer’s greatest promoter and friend—especially to struggling, thoughtful and talented artists not yet recognized by “Hollywood” or choosing such a path. It’s a truly old virus that taps into truly primitive areas of the human brain. ), There were a couple of really great quotes as the movie spooled by – but my favorite, by far, was definitely, “Do you really want to keep playing musak for this genocide?”. “You are just killing scared people, you are like dogs.” And I feel like he could be saying that to us today. Ok. We agree! But stop… Snowcrash, what is Snowcrash about? Right? Come on. Reading full tilt, 40-50 days. However, they're occasionally used in the opposite sense … Ned. Robot”…another relatable creation but distant fiction from Pontypool. 100%. Please take a second to look up on the net and read people’s comments about the two John Crowley’s books mentioned. Books are always dropped into movies for a reason. “We were never making sense… when Armageddon started leaching into our lives, into your ant hills, it was just another day… it was just another day where nothing made any sense at all.” So this movie is actually a metaphor for our lives today. The moment represents the first post-credits scene of “WandaVision.” Post-credits scenes have been a major part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe’s history. The final post-credits scene is the aforementioned one involving Wanda and her new life as the Scarlet Witch, magically multi-tasking and hearing the call from Billy and Tommy. Stop the broadcast! Not for the faint of heart. By forcing Sydney to misunderstand the word Kill, or forcing her to think of it differently, he’s cured her? In a parody of the post-credits scene in Ferris Bueller's Day Off, Deadpool instructs the audience to go home, then reveals that Cable will be featured in the sequel. Passively. Your email address will not be published. This scene is something of a sequel to Spider-Man: Far From Home‘s second post-credits sequence. We learn that it could potentially be spread via words as well. The scene was certainly welcomed. And, what is the post-credits scene about?!? Which is an enormously key distinction to make. With Stephen McHattie, Lisa Houle, Georgina Reilly, Hrant Alianak. There’s discussion about Mazzy’s conspiracy theories and Sydney’s desire to keep Mazzy on book. Fun, tense, and very nicely acted--another great contagion film with a twist. ! (Can you tell it’s my last night in Haiti and I might have had one too many Guiness?). Or not.))). Anyone know what that was about? Pontypool. Pontypool was a cheapo closed box production filmed in Canada and as Taylor well explains it, “A zombie film done right”. Wallace… no writer smarter. Let Me Explain why Pontypool is Zombies Done Right - or how this low budget movie is infinitely better than the recent Justice League movie anyway. Which, is my idea. Archaeologist? Take a second to support Taylor Holmes on Patreon! The third stage you become so distraught at your condition that the only way out of the situation you feel, as an infected person, is to try and chew your way through the mouth of another person. poиTYPOol. And the book 100% deals with cryptography, crypto currencies, the intrinsic insecurities of money, nation building, sovereignty, Neal talks about all of it. Alright, enough about the site and whatever. Lingually he understands how language is the root of everything, even money, etc. Directed by Bruce McDonald. In a world where you are practically drowning in an ocean of mediocre movies, stupid dum dum plots and bad acting on the level of ‘high school play’ awful….YOU have been a light in the dark! Thanks! But the cadence doesn’t slow, it just continues to build as each new revelation and escalation continues to play across the airwaves. There are so many things in Pontypool that aren’t what they seem, from Ken Loney who isn’t in a Sky Chopper to the Lawrence of Arabia player who looks like Bin Laden to the “baby” in the dying football player’s mouth. However Pontypool boldly takes a different approach. So like Hiro in Snowcrash, Mazzey has cured Sydney’s broken brain. [2] [3] A spin-off , Dreamland , was released in 2020, [4] while a direct sequel, Pontypool Changes , is currently in active development. What if that’s how the virus got overseas? We are all fine here. Imagine having Jeff Bezos as a friend—author Neal Stephenson doesn’t have to hahah! And lyrical. I love the creativity and format of the radio station. But the cadence of the movie shifts, and the direction becomes a lot more clear when we start hearing about a crowd of people out at Dr. Mendez’s office. I think it's just the filmmakers having fun. Which brings me to my next win. ... is you neglect to mention the post-credit sequence of the film and how it affects one’s overall interpretation of the events preceding it. “At Rue Morgue’s 2008 Festival of Fear expo, director Bruce McDonald stressed the victims of the virus detailed in the film were not zombies and called them “conversationalists”. Sir Isaac Newton as you’ve never seen him. Find out where Pontypool is streaming, if Pontypool is on Netflix, and get news and updates, on Decider. Was his “kiss” actually the last stage? He is truly a master word-crafter, but better yet, he’s a master word-architect. It may seem like this thread goes off topic but Pontypool, authors Stephenson and Crowley present in the order mentioned, a zombie-kooky, cyberpunk-creative, lyrical-beauty relating to words and how language so deeply affects us all. So I will be taking credit for that one. … (I guess it’s Canadian ?) What if he spread the virus to Nigel, to the UK? edit subscriptions. When Dr. Mendez arrives through a window we begin to learn just how bad the outbreak is. That last scene I think was more for them than for us. The only book I stand by like that, 100%? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontypool_(film) ). I get the footnotes. Pontypool. But realistically? You provided an excellent “explanation” with added depth of Snowcrash and book symbolism’s in movies. So I just finished watching Pontypool on Netflix as recommended to me constantly by this sub, and I thought it was great, just as everybody said. Yeah, I think that that is the case. Mazzey and Sydney get on air and communicate the need to mis-understand the word that has infected them. Hello? But it is literally brilliant. All sets are staged exactly the way the director wants it. Do you remember when Laurel-Ann can’t find a victim? CHANGE THE FABRIC OF HOW REALITY IS PERCEIVED.”. People all around us are dying everyday. Thank you for this recommendation. What is most intriguing is how the screenplay keeps the story moving in such a compelling and interesting way. I wanted to see it again and was bummed to find you literally could not rent it anywhere. In fact it was probably one of the scariest movies I've ever seen. All But we are seeing that it isn’t when someone hears a word that they are infected. The first stage is you might begin to repeat a word. THEN you read the thing. That’s hard to do when you’re talking about a zombie movie. If it found it’s way into language it could leap into reality itself. It’s two different story lines, one slightly in the future, and the other during World War II. No? The one burning question I have though is about the post-credits scene. Pontypool post-credits scene?